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Harper's Conservative back-benchers are clamouring again to erode the rights of women.

Said backbencher is, clearly, an ignorant prick. Of course children should have - and do, if I recall correctly - human rights. Embryos are not children.

For once, the comments on the article there - or at least, the highest-rated ones - are not completely stupid. The very top-rated one even addresses how these male MPs should be keeping thier noses firmly out of it. I was kind of tickled to see that, even if the subject matter makes my blood boil.

Fuck this government, seriously.

Date: 2011-12-22 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anrui-ichido.livejournal.com
Ughhh, didn't he promise this issue wasn't going to come up if he got a majority? >:| Ffffff.

Personally, I think an embryo is a life, but a woman isn't morally obligated to give up HER rights over her own body in order for it to live unless she wants to. An embryo is not entitled to a woman's body any more than any other life out there.

Date: 2011-12-22 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magedragonfire.livejournal.com
Yeah. He did. And he's still saying he doesn't want to address it - but that doesn't mean that his goddamn MPs can't address it, evidently. :|

As far as I'm concerned, an embryo or fetus shouldn't be given human rights considerations until it's out of its mother's womb, alive and able to survive apart from her.

Date: 2011-12-22 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anrui-ichido.livejournal.com
I can agree with that. Afterall, it's dependent on her, a huge strain on her body. It should ultimately be her choice, so no matter what reasoning, I think we pretty much feel the same. :)

Stupid MPs. Harper is such a tricky motherfucker. >:|

Date: 2011-12-22 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magedragonfire.livejournal.com
Yeah, I believe so. :)

And somehow we're stuck with him for three or four years yet. Sigh.

Date: 2011-12-22 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bastets-place.livejournal.com
I have to wonder, though, how much real control Harper has over "back bench" people. The article suggests that he could easily prevent any such press conference/release from happening, if he wanted to. I know that Canada has a lot of pretty different laws from the US, but you still have SOMETHING like freedom of speech and press, right?

Date: 2011-12-22 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magedragonfire.livejournal.com
There is something kind of like it, yes - freedom of expression is covered in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. It's not precisely the same, though. There are exceptions against a lot of things, not just slander and libel - hate speech, for example. The Westboro Baptist Church gets turned away at the border when they try to come up here to protest. :)

The thing with parliament is that most of the time, MPs are kept solidly in line with how the party moves and votes. Since Harper has said he doesn't want to re-open the abortion debate, theoretically his party's whip should be cracking down on actions that might look to oppose that by his members of parliament. (There's an article explaining about some of that particular process.)

Date: 2011-12-22 08:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bastets-place.livejournal.com
Well, if he has made such a firm stand, and someone in his own group is doing this, isn't this something that could trigger a change in government? I mean, I presume it would take more than one idiot, but it looks like "cohesion" is lost.

Date: 2011-12-22 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magedragonfire.livejournal.com
Doubtful. If there's one thing Harper doesn't want, it's losing grip of his beloved majority government.

Really, his stance isn't firm at all; he's just said he doesn't want to reopen the issue. No one who's not a die-hard Conservative believes him about it.

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